Ukrainian Separatists & Russia Tried & Convicted by a Kangaroo Court

Controlling Public Opinion

Controlling Public Opinion

With the Ukrainian Separatist Rebels claiming they did not have a BUK system and their leader claiming he did not  give any orders to shoot down MH17, let alone have the ability to do so; the media does not give up on apportioning blame towards Russia and the Ukrainian Separatists.

Who knows at present; maybe they did, maybe they did not, so let’s put aside the past and just consider the present outside the fog of misinformation.

As the International team make numerous attempts to gain safe access to the crash site and assess the wreckage as best as able and thereby also attempt to recover whatever missing bodies they can find; there comes a need to consider the obstacle and what the obstacle indicates.

The Ukrainian western concocted government – with Yatsenuk now resigning – seems somewhat in disarray; a situation one would have considered most unlikely given the amount of western overt support they seemed to have garnered since the crash.

Yet it is the Ukrainian forces pushing the civil war to a point where the International teams are no longer safe to get entry to the downed aircraft’s site.  If Ukraine were serious about seeing all the bellicose rhetoric they have spewed in the direction of the Ukrainian Separatist’s – rhetoric they espouse as facts re the downing of MH17 – then their current actions perhaps speak volumes about their real intentions whilst hidden behind the fog.

All it would require to satisfy International desires is for the Ukrainian Government forces to have halted their military where they were for the duration – ceased their continuing bullet firing military push – and let the inquiry teams in to do their work matter solved.  The Ukrainian Separatists are not against letting the teams in and onsite; they are against allowing spies and enemy advances to gain a military advantage through the processes; an advantage which may well give their enemy an additional foot hold against them; almost just as has happened.

It is quite clear to any lateral thinking person; the Ukrainian forces are equally if not more so the ones ensuring the evidence as is left, deteriorates to such a point little forensic evidence of real good is able to be located.  Why?

thinking pic re revolutionBecause it is just as reasonable to suspect a unit of the Ukrainian Government forces were the ones who fired off the missile/s. Even USA’s own Intelligence appears to lend some credence to this consideration; albeit, the subsequent spin to defuse this evidence was as swift as it was laughable.  A spin which grows by the day with all sorts of intelligence claims, yet with little if any evidence of substance and credibility being made available.

As the evidence may well point at the Ukrainian forces as much as the Ukrainian Separatists being the shooters of MH17; there comes perhaps a need to ensure little, if any real evidence remains and time here is the ally to this goal.

The public opinion against the Ukrainian Separatists is such that if the Ukrainian Military can forestall the investigation and hence degrade the evidence beyond useless, that media contrived public opinion may well be the driving force giving what skimpy and perhaps contrived evidence being left, any credibility in people’s minds; and that opinion at this point has been carefully massaged to be all against the rebels, Putin and Russia.

Mainstream media cannot help themselves making statements which apportion dedicated blame; yet the evidence – real indisputable evidence – to support those statements does not exist; not yet.

It is noticeable the envoys and government spokespeople of all nations except the USA are very careful in their choice of words when publicly speaking of the downing.  Yet the media are not so circumspect and go so far as to constantly barrage the wider western world’s public with language which should really frighten us all.  The media have become a Kangaroo Court; bestowing upon themselves the office of judge, jury and executioner of the Ukrainian Separatists, President Putin and Russia combined.

Why ever would the world beyond the western powers ever believe in the democracy the west so vehemently tries to foist upon those not so governed; when all they see is deceit and bullying through power and might, whilst allowing the most powerful tool of all; the misuse of a biased western mainstream media to indoctrinate the wider globe’s western public.

Worldwar3In the modern world of the Internet; western law tries to recognise: should information published affect the outcome of a trial, or defame an individual or an entity – regardless of borders – then that publishing may be held legally responsible and accountable.  Who is going to take to task and hold a wild and out of control media responsible and accountable for such transgressions; transgressions which could indirectly lead to wider local, or global conflict?

Has the sad downing of MH17 just become a tool for western politics and a US led NATO push against an old foe – Russia with a wider view of encircling China?

 

Brumbyy With 2Ys

 

NATO push vs MH17 Passenger’s Justice

missileIt just doesn’t stop.  The main stream western media are so in bed with the propaganda being hurled out, that there is little chance of President Putin ever being allowed any credibility.

There are a number of facts which we all need to consider when each of us individually decides for ourselves  what is and what is not the truth about the downing of MH17 and the death of 298 souls believed as a result of a Russian made BUK ground to air missile system; known to the West as an SA-11. There are numerous versions of the BUK as it has evolved over the years.

  1. Russian military hardware is essentially the only weaponry hardware that fills the arsenal of both the Separatists and the Ukraine military.

Russia has been the main supplier of military hardware to Ukraine for many years and the training of this Russian made weaponry has of course been by Russian experts. In today’s war; the supply of weaponry to Ukraine is not all that clear. It is also not clear at all whether the Ukraine Separatists actually had access to a latest SA-11 missile battery; but it is a fact that the Ukrainian Army does have such in its arsenal.  Furthermore, it is reported the Ukrainian Army has deployed this weaponry into the Eastern Ukrainian battle ground.

  1. The Separatists may have appeared to some to be nonchalant about the bodies of the downed MH17 passengers; but when they had secured body bags the remains of the dead were efficiently  picked up.

The bodies of the lost souls from MH17 were strewn across the crash site and almost immediately the Separatists were instrumental in marking out the position of any bodies and parts found; just as would happen anywhere else there may occur such a tragedy.  With the obvious lack of body bags available to such a make shift army; it wasn’t until these bags materialised the movement of the deceased commenced from where they lay.  It was clear though; as soon as those bags arrived, this is exactly what occurred.  It was also clear those bags once filled with a deceased’s remains, they were being transported and carried as respectfully as possible under the circumstances.  The placing of the bodies alongside the road was purely an interim action and at no time was there any disrespect shown in the video footage spread about the world of this happening.

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MH17 Beyond the Victims

Flowers for the MH17 Lost in Kiev

Flowers for the MH17 Lost in Kiev

In times of ultimate sadness and horror; the human mind becomes easily malleable to outside influences where normally structured and considered thoughts act as a bulwark.

With another Malaysian Airliner down and all aboard lost over a battlefront contested area of Ukraine; the loss of innocent international lives seems not just a crime of the airways, but one against all humanity.

The personal sadness for families this act of war has brought to the so many loved ones of the victims is incalculable and this is a story, a narrative all on its own in this event; but the who; the why and the how; this is the other story, the other narrative altogether.

It is this latter narrative which must not be lost in the fog of sorrow and emotion. I will start by saying our Ally the United States is not always trust worthy any more. Not with its words and nor with its money.

  • The Ukraine has been a NATO front line for the USA’s push against Russia for years and this is so well known it is not necessary to rehash the evidence of their doing so.
  • The right wing arm of the current Ukrainian Government is allegedly linked well to the killing of innocents in protests during the recent uprising to oust the democratically elected leader of Ukraine.
  • The world’s main stream media in many cases appeared to pull back the same bed sheets as the US propaganda machine from day one; yet there were no facts to support the rhetoric they flooded the public with.
  • Vladimir Putin upstaged the United States with the peaceful annexation of Crimea and from that date he became their anti-Christ. Russia became the enemy of Ukraine which became the true battleground for the Ukrainian peoples to spill their blood upon; but more importantly; became the cold war battle ground for the US to rush out and keep poking the quiet stalwart neighbouring bear.

Who shot down MH17 has still yet to be investigated and identified. What is known as a fact;        MH17 Path

  • It was, possible for the Rebels of east Ukraine to do so;
  • It was, possible for the Ukrainian Military to do so;
  • It was, possible for the Russians to do so, and;
  • It was possible for the United States Military to do so.

It is also clear should the Terrorists have somehow had in their possession, the equipment and skills; shooting down an International airliner full of the world’s citizens would bring upon them nothing but condemnation of the ultimate kind from the rest of the world.  The only reason this side could have shot down MH17, is by error of judgement of target.

Yes Russian military had the skill, the weaponry and the position to be able to bring down MH17. No such action would be countenanced from their command to do so.  Yet should they have done so; once again nothing but bad bad response could be forth-coming from such an action.  Russia had zero to gain and maximum loss to expect from such an action.

The United States and the Ukraine are one here.  There are so many US trained spooks and special forces wandering the landscape of local and wider areas of Ukraine and Europe today. Who are they training? What weaponry have they supplied covertly to whom within the Ukrainian forces? How many drones are in the skies and what weaponry is attached to those stealthy wings?

If a plane such as MH17 was brought down over Eastern Ukraine as has been done, and all blame was directed towards the rebels; well now we perhaps have reason for such a heinous action to occur.  Not at or by the hands of inept rebels per-se’; but by the hands of others making it appear so.  All that is needed after such an action is the assistance of an already biased media and suddenly we have exactly what we have today; “Russian backed rebels shoot down international jet full of global citizens.”

No facts; no known truths; no substance; just another global public indoctrination by a western compliant media reporting spin from desperate Politicians so furious with Vladimir Putin’s ability to shaft them with a chess player’s skill and logic. Would they use an event like the killing of 297 innocent souls as a pawn in their game to encircle the last realms’ of the Bear; a bear who still wields sharp claws?

The Syrian gas rockets fiasco; the non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; are just two contrivances most today are familiar with. United States is quick to rhetorically skewer its foes falsely, all the while holding designs to rain bombs down upon those they wish to depose and or dispose of, the moment the global public are on side.

This brutal act of mass killing in the skies over Ukraine has a culprit that is for sure; but who that culprit is has yet a long dust billowing road to traverse before such a culprit can hang from the gallows.  What is certain is; that he who cried first “Not me Not me” while their ally cried “We know it is not the Ukraine” is indicative in the first instance of a guilty conscience and such decriers need to be subjected to the harshest scrutiny and investigations.

Reported in the NY Post @1203pm 17/07/2014: The doomed aircraft had been tracked by a surface-to-air missile system right before it went down, a senior US official told CNN. The United States was working to track the rocket’s trajectory to determine its origin, the official said.

American intelligence authorities believe it unlikely that the Ukrainian government had the capacity to take down the plane. Kiev was quick to blame the tragedy on pro-Russian, anti-government rebels who have been waging a separatist war.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/18/facts-needed-on-malaysian-plane-shoot-down/

It matters not for the victims of MH17 who; but those left behind and we the people can have no forgiveness for those ‘who’, who caused this crime to occur.  They are criminals of the worst kind; be it error or intent; the crime is unfathomable and unconscionable.

As a global nation though; we must first find ‘who’ those criminals are.  I for one am not pointing the finger at one, when there is perhaps good reason to be looking closer at those whom we believe are supposedly above reproach.

Brumbyy With 2Ys

 

Bill Bibbulmun on track relating Whistle Blower Robert Paul’s court win

Bill Bibbulmun reviews activist Robert Paul CPO’s recent court case in Perth WA where he exposed false charges by police on video and forged documents by police He represented himself in court and won the case using prosecutions evidence and their police officer witness he ripped to shreds. Further child abuse exposed by government enforcers the Royal Commission are ignoring ….